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hello my name's Steve drew snow swans

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UFO network and I'm here today with

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Aaron Williams and Mike mondo who's

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doing the filming at the moment also so

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fun today is Wednesday the 12th of every

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two thousand and twenty and we're at Tai

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Lopez needs which is May Hill in Swansea

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and we're here to interview mr. Peter

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Watkins and Peter's gotta tell us a

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little bit about the incident occurred

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on the night of the tracks which is 19th

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of January 1983 right Peter a long time

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just stood up make note is this

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straightaway I was traveling on West

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so east to west sorry it was a dark

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night very still so there's no wind no

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noise nothing I was driving very very

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slow and I just watched it glide over

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until it actually disappeared behind the

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houses just to set the background you

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live in yes I grew up here my parents

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lived and I live it was seven eight ish

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that time I can't remember the exact

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Merrigan yes what was in the house

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cables in the house yes I didn't

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actually told her when I went in because

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we had the kid she didn't triangle just

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three definite triangle glady

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and I must have been at the nine look

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was I could see the actual three lights

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overloads sorry

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wait wait yeah I'm what - it was it was

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about hundred fifty two hundred yards it

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wasn't very high because it was it just

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skipped over the top of our house there

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and I lost it behind that one so it

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wasn't high quite low and an estimated

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speed there oh god it was slow I know I

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wouldn't say it was it wasn't fast it

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was it was great in three watch there

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from when you first saw my watch it for

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my first order what's that I think just

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slowly gliding across this direction

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until obviously I said it disappeared in

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a boat was practically in uplands way

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would you say it would have been over

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the city all over the sea was a oh no it

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was cross when she was only about 200

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it's hard to say size but it wasn't

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massive but it was big enough for echoes

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obviously yeah yeah no not a big no a

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big oli enough but it was definitely so

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high you just see that the white light

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and the flashing like this was so long I

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mean it's just I said it was just

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skimmed over the top of that house there

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but in the distance point and I watched

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it I just and I went in I'm told Claire

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I mean I wasn't that interested in you

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so then after it was after and he lived

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that's what I thought what what is that

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and it's going so slow I know I know I

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got like they're a painting go slow but

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up here you could see of Liberty

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Ilfracombe before they put Albert there

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and it was clear but I couldn't I could

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just see the three lights in the

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Triangle Dora presume is this treatment

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you know yes but it was it was dark time

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it was dark it was roughly all about 84

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I think you know 8 o'clock it was dark

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yeah but I just said with no wind so the

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other thing to tell you after them when

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I read it that we started talking about